13x26: The Best of Holiday Scares
Let's Not Meet: A True Horror PodcastDecember 23, 202400:53:32

13x26: The Best of Holiday Scares

Stories in this episode: 

Christmas Day Creep | Jessica (1:05)
A Stormy Christmas Night | Anonymous (5:00
A Nightmare Before Christmas | NadjaColette (11:27
New Years Creep | 45minutesofroadhead (19:49
My 2023 New Year's Eve Let's Not Meet Story | Jazmin (25:52
The Girl with the Moth Tattoo | Torrey Cross (30:30
She Was My Best Friend | Tonya (41:03
Stalked by My Old Coworker | Haley (48:40

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[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_02]: This week we're sharing some of the best not-so-happy holiday scares from the past 13 seasons of the show. We even threw in a few bonus gems from our Patreon extensions to give you a taste of some of the stories you may have missed.

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[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It was Christmas Day and my family and I were staying at a vacation home in southern Utah. It was a tradition to spend every Christmas there because of the sunny weather and outdoor activities.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a female and at the time I was a sophomore in college. My sister was a senior in high school.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: We had each gotten an iPod Touch for Christmas and wanted to set them up as soon as possible.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: The house that we were staying in didn't have Wi-Fi so my sister and I decided to drive to the McDonald's only a few miles away and use the Wi-Fi in the parking lot.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_02]: We took my mom's car, drove to the McDonald's, and sat in the empty parking lot with our iPods, with me in the driver's seat, and my sister in the passenger seat.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Since it was Christmas Day, nobody was driving or walking around. It was very quiet. The McDonald's was closed.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: As we sat there, I noticed a black BMW circling the building.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It drove through the drive-thru, circled around, then parked right next to us, on the passenger side of our car.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_02]: The dark-tinted window of the BMW rolled down and there was a middle-aged man who looked to be in his probably 40s with salt and pepper hair.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_02]: He motioned for us to roll down our window.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I was hesitant, because I was still very cautious and, you know, stranger danger.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So I rolled the window down only a few inches and asked, yeah, what's up?

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: The man started making small talk with us.

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_02]: He asked us where we were from since we had out-of-state plates.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I told him that we were here with family, and we were expected back home soon.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_02]: He then said, well, you should come over and hang out with my roommate and I.

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_02]: We have a hot tub, so you can bring your swimsuits.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: My sister shot me a terrified look, and I could tell that she was even more uncomfortable than I was.

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_02]: She was only 17.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I told the creep, no, dude, it's Christmas and we have plans with family today.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I look back and I wish I had just gone off screaming at him, calling him a pervert.

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But in that moment, I was in survival mode.

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't want to make him upset.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what this guy wanted from us, but my gut told me it was nothing good.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_02]: After I said that, the guy said, well, then Merry Christmas, then rolled his window up, backed up and peeled out of the parking lot.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_02]: We immediately drove back to the house.

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_02]: On the way back, my sister started crying and said, I feel like I need to take a shower or something.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_02]: We told our parents what happened.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_02]: My mom was concerned, but my dad made a joke out of it.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_02]: The situation upset my sister and I for years, and we talk about it occasionally.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Recently, I found a news article about a human sex trafficking problem in southern Utah.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Police found that this ring would target young women in parking lots, grocery stores, and shopping malls.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: The tactics traffickers used were very similar to the interaction that we had with this creep.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It still scares me.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel sick knowing that this guy could have hurt other women.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Let this be a warning, and remember to always listen to your gut.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It always knows when something is up.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: So to the creep in the BMW, let's not meet.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_02]: This happened when I was around 22 years old.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I was back from London for Christmas and was staying at my parents' large 16th century farmhouse in my hometown on the south coast of England.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a weekend, and I had been on a big night out with all of my school friends the night before.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I woke up and felt the usual dread of a dry-mouthed, anxious hangover brewing.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I still party a fair amount now, but back then it was twice a week minimum.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I remember the day being a gloomy and very wet day, which is typical for December in the UK.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_02]: My parents' house is surrounded by fields, but is surprisingly close to town considering it feels as if you're in the middle of nowhere.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very old house with a lot of history, and the locals even talk about the tunnels that run from the house and across the farm to various outbuildings.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm unsure if this is true, as we have lived here for about 8 years and I have yet to find them.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_02]: The day was short, and I remember it got dark quicker than usual.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it was near Christmas, most of my family were out at the pub seeing old friends.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I remember I was feeling sorry for myself, so I lit a fire, sat on the couch, and put on a movie.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Before I knew it, I had dozed off in a hungover slumber.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_02]: A few hours had passed, and I was awoken by my mother shaking me.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_02]: She was wide-eyed and had this frantic look on her face.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I was annoyed by the rude awakening and asked what was wrong.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: She explained that there was a big storm, and she had been down at the stables to check on the horses when she saw a figure walking in front of her.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_02]: She assumed it was my sister who had come home early from a night out, worried about her horse and the bad weather.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_02]: She called out her name, but the figure carried on walking.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_02]: She called louder, and still no reaction.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Eventually, as she got closer, she realized it was not my sister, and ran back to the house to get me, as I was the only one in.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_02]: My mother is quite spiritual, and explained that she thought she had seen a ghost.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Me, being more of a skeptic, thought that it was probably, more likely, a Christmas thief or a homeless person from town looking for shelter from the storm.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_02]: She asked me to go down to the stables to check that everything was okay, and to make sure that the horses were safe.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I, of course, was freaked out, but I grabbed a torch and headed out.

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_02]: The rain was being blown so fiercely that it stung my face, and I could barely see through my glasses.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_02]: They were all fogged up.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_02]: When I got to my destination, I checked on our three horses and shone my light into the remaining empty stalls and barns.

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_02]: To my relief, I found nothing out of the ordinary except a light that had been switched on and was swinging in the wind.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I went back to the house, dried off by the fire, and told my mother about the shadows.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_02]: They must have been playing tricks on her.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Roll around morning, and the storm is dying out.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_02]: My dad had taken the dog out for a walk as I was making breakfast.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_02]: He came back holding a large, muddy, wet cloth in his hands.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I asked him what it was, and he told me that he had been down there where I was searching the night before,

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and he found a hospital gown along with a rusty knife dumped on a pile of hay.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm 28 now, and I think about that night sometimes and how naive and vulnerable I was walking around in the pitch black storm,

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_02]: probably being watched by, I don't know, some creep in a hospital gown, wielding a rusty knife.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Thankfully, everything worked out okay, and nothing ever happened again.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But creepy, escaped hospital patient?

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's never meet.

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[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Decorating for the holidays is a lot of fun.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_02]: We always start in November and leave it up through my birthday.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: It just makes home cozy and comfortable.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_02]: How do you stay cozy during the winter months?

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_02]: For some, wrapping up in a blanket with a mug of hot chocolate or watching a movie with family

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_02]: is the best way to spend the month of December.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Therapy is a great way to bring yourself some comfort that never goes away,

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_02]: even when the seasons change.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_02]: A big topic right now with my therapist has been comfort and relaxation.

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Throughout our conversations, I've discovered that I honestly had no idea how to really relax

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and allow myself to experience honest comfort until recently,

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_02]: when I started utilizing some of the tools that we've been working on together,

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[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I always used to feel guilty for allowing myself to relax and enjoy life.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I always felt like I needed to be working.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm really thankful that my therapist has helped me get to where I am.

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[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_02]: This story happened when I was very young.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It started around the time that I was five, back in the 80s,

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and was beginning the worst five years of my life.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: My mom was a single mom for the first few years of my life.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't too bad since my mom and I weren't alone.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_02]: We lived with my mom's parents.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: My mom's younger sister was also still living at home.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_02]: We were all safe and happy.

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Then, my mom met this guy who we'll call Joe.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Joe seemed like a dream come true.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_02]: He was nice to me and my mom.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: He took us places and bought us gifts.

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It was awesome.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So, when he proposed to my mom, she and I were both very happy.

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_02]: They got married, and my mom thought that we would now be a happy family.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But we didn't know how wrong we were.

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Things were great at first.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_02]: We had left my grandparents and moved into a different home with Joe.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_02]: We had some really good times,

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_02]: but things really took a turn for the worse after the first few months.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Joe had a really bad temper,

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: and it would come out when my mom or I upset him.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_02]: He would yell, throw things, and break stuff,

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_02]: which escalated into him hitting my mom and me.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_02]: He would kick and punch us.

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Once he started doing this,

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_02]: he got worse and worse.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_02]: He started beating me up to get back at my mom.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a nightmare for three years.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_02]: My mom was too scared to leave home

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_02]: or tell anyone what was going on.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I was really young,

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_02]: so when I accidentally slipped information to people,

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_02]: they thought that I was lying

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: because I wanted to go back to my grandparents.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It was especially strange

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_02]: because Joe was a lot like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_02]: We did have some really good times,

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_02]: especially when we would go on vacations

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and spend holidays together.

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_02]: When he was nice, it was amazing.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_02]: When his other side came out, it was hell.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_02]: As the rollercoaster continued,

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_02]: my mom got pregnant.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_02]: She was happy about the news,

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was excited to be a big brother.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But this also meant

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_02]: that we were further tied to Joe,

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and who knew what he would do to a baby?

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_02]: When my baby brother was born,

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_02]: things were good for a while.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_02]: We were pretty happy.

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I had withdrawn from our situation a lot, though.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I stayed in my room,

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_02]: watching TV and reading.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I figured if I was out of sight,

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I was out of mind.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that if I avoided Joe,

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: he wouldn't bother me.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And I should have continued this plan.

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_02]: But I was blinded by the happiness and peace

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_02]: that came with my baby brother's birth.

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Then one day,

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Joe had a toothache

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and was in a foul mood.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_02]: He had been yelling at my mom all day.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_02]: My baby brother

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_02]: was having tooth problems as well,

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: since he had been teething,

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and he was being fussy.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Since Joe was extra grumpy,

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: he yelled at my mom

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_02]: to quiet the baby down.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: As this was going on,

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: my mom called me to dinner,

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_02]: so I walked out of my room

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and into the dining room.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I was walking slowly and quietly

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: because I didn't want to make Joe

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_02]: any more upset

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_02]: than he already was.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I guess I was going too slow

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_02]: because I accidentally got in his way.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He got mad, yelled,

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and threw the remote control,

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_02]: hitting me in the sight of the head

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_02]: and the eye.

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_02]: He had thrown the remote so hard

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_02]: that I was bruised and bleeding.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: My mom finally had enough,

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_02]: so we left him

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and went to my grandparents' house.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: They took pictures of my eye

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and called the police,

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_02]: but the police wouldn't do anything.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Social services launched an investigation,

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: but they didn't do anything either.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_02]: We were happy being at my grandparents'

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: since we were safe,

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: but Joe was very slick.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: He called my mom

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and said all of the right things,

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and after some coaxing,

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_02]: he got her to agree to come back

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: with promises to be better.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And he was for a while.

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_02]: But then,

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_02]: he went back to his old ways.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_02]: He even tried to start

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_02]: beating my little brother,

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_02]: but I wouldn't allow it.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I took a lot of beatings for him

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: because I loved him

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and I wanted to protect him.

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But it all came crashing down

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_02]: one December night

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_02]: when I was nine years old.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_02]: My mom had forgotten

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_02]: to pay the phone bill,

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_02]: so the phone got turned off.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_02]: She was working

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_02]: double late-night shifts,

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and Joe was due

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_02]: to go into the same plant

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_02]: she worked at

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_02]: for his third shift

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: in a different department.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: He was enraged

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_02]: when he found out

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_02]: that our phone service

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: had been cut off.

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_02]: When he realized this,

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_02]: he dragged me out of bed

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and we drove to the store

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_02]: just up the road

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_02]: from our house.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_02]: He called my mom at work

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_02]: from the payphone

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_02]: at the store.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_02]: He was yelling

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and cussing at her

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_02]: about the phone bill.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Then he said something

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_02]: that sent chills down my spine.

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_02]: He told her

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_02]: that if she didn't get home

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_02]: in an hour,

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_02]: he would kill me.

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously,

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I was terrified.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_02]: When we got back

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_02]: to the house,

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I quickly went to my room

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_02]: while Joe kept ranting

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and raving.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Even though

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I was so scared

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_02]: when he called me

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_02]: into the living room,

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I did as I was asked.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_02]: He started attacking me

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_02]: right away.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_02]: He was hitting me

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_02]: with a belt.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Then,

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_02]: he grabbed me

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and threw me

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_02]: into a wall

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and then grabbed a broom

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and continued to beat me.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_02]: The beating continued

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_02]: on and off

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_02]: for several hours.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I was in pain,

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_02]: covered in blood

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and bruises.

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm convinced

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_02]: it only stopped

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_02]: because it was time

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_02]: for him to go to work.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_02]: He got dressed up

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_02]: to go

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and told me

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_02]: that if I went

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_02]: to school in the morning,

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_02]: he would beat me

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_02]: when I got home.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess he knew

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_02]: with all of my wounds

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_02]: that the school

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_02]: would know something

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_02]: was up

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and do something

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_02]: about it.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I was scared

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_02]: but I also knew

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that I needed help.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_02]: The next morning,

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't change

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: out of my pajamas

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_02]: because I was

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_02]: in too much pain,

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_02]: but I decided

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_02]: to make a break

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: for it.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I slowly limped

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: my way to the bus

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_02]: even though

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I was barefoot

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and still

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_02]: in my Incredible Hulk

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_02]: pajamas.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_02]: The bus driver

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_02]: pulled up,

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_02]: opened the door,

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_02]: took one look at me,

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_02]: got me on the bus

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_02]: and immediately

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_02]: drove to school.

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Everything moved

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_02]: so fast after that.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Before I knew it,

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I was talking

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_02]: to social services again

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_02]: as well as the police.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_02]: They ended up

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_02]: taking me

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_02]: to my grandparents

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_02]: who eventually

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_02]: got custody of me.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I was happy

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_02]: to be with my grandparents

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was happy

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_02]: to be safe.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But I did miss

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_02]: my mom and my brother.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Strangely enough,

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_02]: the police still

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_02]: never did a thing

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_02]: about Joe.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a few more

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_02]: years before my mom

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_02]: got the courage

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_02]: to leave him,

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_02]: but I'm grateful

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_02]: she finally did.

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_02]: She ended up

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_02]: reconnecting with

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: the high school

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: sweetheart

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and getting married.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I later found out

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_02]: that Joe had been

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_02]: orphaned at the age

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: of five

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: because his parents

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and older sister

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_02]: died when his dad's

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_02]: small plane crashed.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_02]: He was then raised

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_02]: by a very physically

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_02]: and mentally abusive

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: aunt and uncle.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It did shed some light

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_02]: on his behavior,

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: but it doesn't

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: give him any excuses

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_02]: for what he did.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I finally found him

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: on social media.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I reached out to him

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_02]: to let him know

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: that I forgave him.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I told him

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I let go of the anger

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and hurt

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_02]: that I had been

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_02]: holding on to.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_02]: He let me know

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_02]: that he had got

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot of mental help

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_02]: and seemed to be

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_02]: doing well.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Joe also reconnected

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_02]: with his mom's family

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and some other

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: extended family

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_02]: who he lost touch

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_02]: with after his parents

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_02]: died.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that he did

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_02]: since it has been

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_02]: helping with his healing.

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_02]: This all happened

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Tuesday night.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_02]: My significant other,

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle, and I

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_02]: went to an absolutely

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_02]: fantastic concert

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_02]: for New Year's Eve.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_02]: We met up

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_02]: with a few friends,

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_02]: but they all left

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_02]: right after midnight.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_02]: The bands were great,

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_02]: so we wanted to stay

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_02]: for the rest of the show.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle got a call

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_02]: from a good friend,

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Nathan,

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_02]: around 1 a.m.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Nathan said that

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_02]: he was at the same bar

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and wanted to know

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_02]: if we were still there.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_02]: We were stoked

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_02]: because Nathan

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_02]: never gets out

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_02]: of the house.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a super cool guy

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_02]: and we love

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_02]: hanging out with him.

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_02]: He had his girlfriend

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_02]: with him,

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_02]: who I also liked a lot,

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and his friend Derek.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like Derek

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_02]: at all.

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Derek just gives off

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_02]: creepy vibes.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_02]: He talks slow

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and monotone,

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and he stares

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_02]: for too long

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_02]: and leans in

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_02]: too close.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_02]: He is Nathan's

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_02]: pity friend.

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_02]: They were best friends

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_02]: for a long time,

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and Derek's family

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_02]: did a lot for Nathan

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: during a rough time.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Nathan will bring him

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_02]: along every now and then

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_02]: because he feels

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_02]: obligated at this point.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But he has no trust

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: in him whatsoever.

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Derek is a drug addict.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyways,

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_02]: we all hang out

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and have some laughs.

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Derek sits there,

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_02]: being freaky as usual,

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_02]: just staring at everyone.

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_02]: When he would speak,

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_02]: it would be something

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_02]: off the wall

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and completely unrelated

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_02]: to anything

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_02]: we were talking about.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Once,

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_02]: he looked at Don and I

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and said,

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it'd be really weird

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_02]: if you two made out,

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_02]: okay?

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah,

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah,

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_02]: it would be weird.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_02]: We just ignored him

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and kept having fun.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_02]: The bar closed down

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and Kyle asked them

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: if they wanted to come

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: to our house

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and have some more drinks

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and play foosball

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_02]: in Tekken.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Now,

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I was a little annoyed

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: because he didn't okay

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_02]: this with me first

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was ready for bed.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't that upset,

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_02]: though.

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I know Kyle likes

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_02]: to have company.

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I told Kyle

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_02]: that I wouldn't mind

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_02]: if it was just

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Nathan and Don,

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_02]: but I don't want Derek

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_02]: in our house.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't trust him.

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle brushes it off

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and says,

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_02]: what's the worst

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_02]: that could happen?

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It'll be fine.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_02]: He's just weird.

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_02]: when we were all leaving,

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_02]: we had to wait for Derek

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_02]: in the parking lot

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_02]: for the longest time.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Turns out,

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_02]: he was waiting

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_02]: outside the door

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_02]: of the bar

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_02]: trying to get any girl

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_02]: to come with him,

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_02]: bribing them

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_02]: with free pills.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I got mad

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_02]: and said,

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_02]: what makes you think

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_02]: it's okay to invite

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_02]: random people

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_02]: to my house?

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And he just laughed.

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_02]: We get to my house

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and he sits on the couch

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_02]: by me.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_02]: He keeps poking me

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and when I ask

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_02]: what he wants,

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_02]: he just stares

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_02]: for about 10 seconds

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_02]: before saying,

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_02]: what's up?

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I started ignoring him.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_02]: He continues to poke me

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and try to tickle my feet.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't even look over.

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Then he starts getting

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_02]: phone calls from people

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_02]: asking for pills.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I went to the bathroom

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and he tried to follow me

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: in there.

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I just pushed him out

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and locked the door

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and he continued to knock.

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_02]: After this,

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_02]: he starts trying to get

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Nathan and Dawn

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: to take him home

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_02]: which was 45 minutes away

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's 4 a.m.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_02]: They tell him no way

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and that they had agreed

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: that he was staying

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_02]: with them.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_02]: They actually wanted

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_02]: to go to their house

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and sleep in their own bed

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_02]: 10 minutes away.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't want

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: to go to their house.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_02]: He wanted to either

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_02]: go home

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_02]: or stay at our house.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_02]: He started whining

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and telling me

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_02]: that I had to convince

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_02]: them to stay

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and I told him no.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_02]: He started saying

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_02]: that Dawn had drank

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: too much to drive.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_02]: The girl had one beer

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_02]: the entire night.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_02]: When they were going

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_02]: to leave,

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Derek comes back in

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_02]: and says he needs

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_02]: to use the bathroom.

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle is overly trusting

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_02]: of people

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and doesn't pay attention

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_02]: to weird behavior.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm the opposite

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_02]: so I was keeping

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_02]: an eye on Derek.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I caught him

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_02]: going through

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_02]: my prescription bottles.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: They were nothing

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_02]: but antibiotics

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_02]: but it pissed me off

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_02]: that he was trying

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_02]: to steal from us anyway.

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I told him

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_02]: he needed to leave

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_02]: immediately.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_02]: He then stood

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_02]: in our kitchen

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_02]: refusing to leave

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_02]: staring at us.

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I said that

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_02]: they were waiting

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_02]: on him

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and he needed

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_02]: to go with them.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_02]: He kept staring

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and said

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: don't you remember

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_02]: the time

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_02]: that I gave you

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_02]: guys a ride?

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Well make it even

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_02]: you either convince

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_02]: them to stay

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_02]: or I stay here

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_02]: and y'all take me home.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_02]: No way.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He gave us a ride

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: home once

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_02]: when we had a flat

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and we lived

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_02]: two blocks apart

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: at the time.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_02]: We are not going

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_02]: 45 minutes

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_02]: out of our way

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_02]: to take a weirdo

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_02]: home that's

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: refusing to leave

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_02]: for reasons

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: unknown.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: He keeps saying

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_02]: that Don was

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_02]: drunk.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle finally

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_02]: speaks up and

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_02]: says if you get

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_02]: in a roadblock

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll come get you.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Derek responds

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_02]: well are you

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: going to post

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: the bail too

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_02]: because we're

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_02]: your responsibility

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_02]: now.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I am beyond

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_02]: frustrated at this

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_02]: point and told

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle you invited

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_02]: them now you

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02]: get rid of them.

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I went and

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_02]: sat on the couch.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Derek continued

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_02]: to stand there

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and stare at

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle.

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Now Kyle

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_02]: normally passive

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: is getting angry

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and telling him

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_02]: that it's time

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: for him to go

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and we aren't

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_02]: taking him home

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_02]: or convincing

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_02]: anyone to stay.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Derek says

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: that he's not

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: leaving so he

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_02]: has to do

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: one or the

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: other.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle finally

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_02]: went outside

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and got Nathan

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_02]: to come

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_02]: literally drag

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Derek to the

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_02]: car.

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Nathan apologized

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_02]: profusely and

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_02]: says that he

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_02]: isn't going to

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_02]: bring Derek

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_02]: around anymore.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I also asked

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle not to

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_02]: invite people over

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_02]: without okaying

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: it with me

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_02]: first.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_02]: One because

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_02]: we both live

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_02]: there and

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_02]: it's rude.

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Two because

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: he doesn't

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: pay attention

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_02]: to weird

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: people and

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_02]: three because

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: he invites

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: people over

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_02]: at inappropriate

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_02]: times.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_02]: this goes

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_02]: both ways.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll make

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_02]: sure he's

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_02]: cool with

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_02]: me bringing

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_02]: people over

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_02]: as well.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_02]: However

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Derek

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_02]: let's not

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_02]: meet.

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll be

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_00]: we'll be

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_02]: This past New Year's Eve, a group of friends and I were getting ready to go see a local band play.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_02]: We decided to go all out and get dressed up in everything.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_02]: The group consisted of me, my friend Amy, her boyfriend, his twin, my fiancé Ryan, Amy's sister Alyssa and her husband.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I've changed everybody's names for privacy reasons.

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_02]: The local band was playing at this place called The Inn, and they had planned New Year's Eve shows there for two years in a row.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_02]: This show was pretty popular, so tickets needed to be purchased in advance, and there weren't any additional tickets to purchase at the door on the day of the show.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_02]: To give you a better understanding of how this venue looked inside, I'll share some details.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a ballroom area that essentially is a big room with a stage at the front and a big dance floor in front of it.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_02]: There are tables set up about five to six feet away from the dance floor, with a bar located in the back.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I sat at our table for about ten minutes before I decided to get up and grab myself a beer.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_02]: As I was standing there, this guy who was in his late fifties, over twice my age, was there too.

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_02]: For the sake of this story, let's call him Steve.

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Steve looked at me and told me that I was a beautiful young lady, and that he thought that I was cute.

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I gave him a small sheepish smile and said thanks.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how to handle compliments very well, so this was already uncomfortable.

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_02]: But then he grabbed my hand and pulled me in for a hug.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't reciprocate, and I asked him not to touch me and to leave me alone.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_02]: He walked off, so I assumed that was the end of it.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_02]: When I returned to my table, I didn't tell anyone, which was dumb in hindsight.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_02]: But like I said, I thought I had squashed it.

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_02]: As I sat with my group, talking and waiting for dinner to be served,

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I felt someone walk by and touch my arm.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I looked up and saw that it was Steve, who smiled and winked at me.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_02]: This creeped me out even more than I already was.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I still hadn't said anything about Steve to my fiancé Ryan,

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_02]: but he noticed him and shot him a dirty look.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_02]: That seemed to deter Steve, so once the band started playing,

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Amy, Alyssa, and I got up and went to the dance floor,

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_02]: as this band is our favorite.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_02]: We danced for about half an hour before taking a seat back at our table for a bit.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_02]: We only got to sit briefly since the band started playing one of our favorite songs.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_02]: As they started to play the song we really liked,

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_02]: we got ready to head back out to the dance floor.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I was still warm from dancing before,

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and I knew that I would get even warmer,

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_02]: so I took off the sweater that I had on.

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_02]: As I was doing so, I heard from behind me,

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah, baby, take it off.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I turned around and I saw Steve behind me.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't say anything as I got up from the table to join Amy and Alyssa on the dance floor.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_02]: As we were dancing, I told them what happened.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_02]: They were both pissed off and kept an eye on the guy

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_02]: as he started making his way to the dance floor.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_02]: He started dancing and making his way towards me as he stared at me.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I turned my back to him while the girls kept an eye on him.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Eventually, Amy put herself between me and him.

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_02]: She sternly told him to knock it off and he left the dance floor.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I thanked her profusely because it was genuinely scary.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I can stick up for myself, but only to an extent since I am a people pleaser.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_02]: We saw him leave and go outside so we thought that we were in the clear,

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_02]: but I kept looking over my shoulder just in case,

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm glad that I did because he came back in.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_02]: When we saw that he had returned,

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Amy went up to one of the waitresses and let her know what was happening.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_02]: The waitress ended up getting the owner of the inn

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_02]: who had Steve removed from the premises.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm thankful for having amazing friends who took such good care of me

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_02]: in this creepy situation,

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and a creepy Steve let's not meet again.

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I've listened to enough of this podcast to be able to dig deep

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_02]: into memories of my early 20s.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_02]: In doing so, I recalled one of the more unsettling moments in my life.

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Let me start by saying that there aren't a lot of times in my life

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_02]: that I felt unsafe.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a small bartender, standing about 5 foot.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Over the years, I've become outspoken,

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_02]: especially regarding anyone who seems like they're making any bar guests of mine

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_02]: feel uncomfortable.

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_02]: However, there was a point in my life when I wasn't as outspoken,

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_02]: which is when I found myself in a bit of a creepy situation.

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I was 22, a bartender at a pizza place in my hometown.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It was winter, post-Christmas time.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_02]: So, work had slowed down pretty significantly.

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_02]: At this time, I decided to sign up for a webcam site

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: to bring in some extra money.

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, this was before OnlyFans,

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_02]: so it was essentially a chat room set up

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: where I could share video content.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm currently 28,

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and pretty heavily tattooed.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_02]: At the time,

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't as tattooed as I am now,

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_02]: but I still had quite a few.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_02]: There were a few tattoos that could only be seen while I was naked.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, my chat room guests frequently talked about these tattoos

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_02]: as they complimented them.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I used a fake name while using this website,

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and I had a fake background story.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I never revealed my location,

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and I created this fake fantasy persona the best that I could.

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I was down for whatever was going to help me make the most money.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_02]: One night, I was online,

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and a random guest requested a private video chat with me.

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_02]: This wasn't uncommon,

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and I jumped at opportunities like this,

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_02]: keeping requesters on as long as I could

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_02]: since I was being paid by the minute.

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I entered the chat and we talked.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_02]: He asked to see several things,

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and towards the end of the chat,

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_02]: he complimented the moth tattoo on my stomach

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and asked if I'd consider getting my nipples pierced.

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I told him I had thought about it,

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and he said that if I let him know where I lived,

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_02]: he would come visit me and pay for me to have them pierced.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_02]: This guest talked about money a lot,

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_02]: so in my head,

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_02]: he was just some bored, rich, older guy

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_02]: who could easily afford the time and money that it took

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_02]: to talk to women online all day.

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I was uneasy about this pitch to visit me,

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_02]: so I told him I'd think about it

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and asked if I could do anything else for him

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_02]: before I logged off.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_02]: He said no,

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and I closed the chat.

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I genuinely thought nothing of this.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Men said creepy and weird stuff to me all the time,

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_02]: especially on the webcam site.

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_02]: They were all relatively harmless,

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_02]: as most of these men were too afraid

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_02]: to talk to women in real life.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_02]: They often used anonymous profiles

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_02]: so that they could act their wildest.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_02]: A few weeks passed,

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_02]: and that particular guest did not return.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't receive any messages from him,

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_02]: and he never entered the chat again.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_02]: This caused me to quickly forget about the entire interaction,

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_02]: allowing other creepy men's behavior

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_02]: and comments to take its place.

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Then, one night while at work,

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I had been scheduled to bartend in the beer garden.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_02]: This usually meant I spent all of my shifts outside

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: until right before closing time

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_02]: when I brought everything into the dining room bar.

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_02]: As I moved my operation inside,

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_02]: there were only a few patrons remaining,

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_02]: including one man sitting at the bar inside.

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_02]: He was talking with a few of my co-workers,

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and they were all laughing.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I had headphones in,

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_02]: so I wasn't paying attention to anything being said

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_02]: until my co-worker flagged me down

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_02]: to join their conversation.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_02]: As I walked over,

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_02]: my co-worker was gushing about tattoos

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_02]: and how I had a lot of them.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_02]: She caught me up on the conversation

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and said that this man mentioned his girlfriend

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_02]: and how he wished

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_02]: that she had more tattoos or piercings.

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I really wish she'd get her nipples pierced,

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_02]: he droned.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't very interested in this conversation,

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_02]: so I politely nodded

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_02]: before checking out

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and attempting to sneak away

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_02]: from the conversation.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_02]: As I tried to make my exit,

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_02]: he locked his eyes on me,

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_02]: looking me up and down,

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and an eager smile crept across his face.

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you completely tattooed?

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_02]: He asked.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_02]: This struck me as an odd question,

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_02]: so I asked him what he meant.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_02]: He clarified,

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_02]: are those tattoos under your clothes?

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: If someone were to ask me this question,

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_02]: at the present,

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I would tell them to screw off

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_02]: in two seconds flat.

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_02]: But timid 22-year-old me

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_02]: clammed up and sheepishly responded,

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah, I guess.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't you have a blue moth tattoo?

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_02]: He inquired.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I felt my skin get cold.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I looked at him as he smiled,

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_02]: knowingly,

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_02]: as if to say,

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I found you.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_02]: As I said previously,

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I never divulged any actual personal information

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_02]: about myself on this webcam site,

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_02]: nothing.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I even lied about my age

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_02]: as if that would protect me even more.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I immediately turned

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and made a beeline

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_02]: to my manager's office.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I broke out in a cold sweat

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_02]: as I tried to sort my thoughts

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_02]: every which way,

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_02]: trying to figure out

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_02]: how I could explain this situation.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I was trying to think of how to communicate

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_02]: that this man had found me

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_02]: through a webcam site

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and was now sitting at the bar.

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I went into the office,

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_02]: breathing so hard

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I felt like I was going to pass out.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I managed to meekly explain the situation

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_02]: by saying,

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a man who

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I met from my other job

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm scared of him.

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_02]: My manager immediately stood up

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_02]: and asked me if he was in the restaurant.

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I told him that the man was

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_02]: in the dining room bar.

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_02]: He told me to stay in the kitchen

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_02]: as he assessed the situation.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I stood in the kitchen

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and at this point,

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_02]: tears were slowly rolling down my eyes

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_02]: as I hyperventilated.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Two of the kitchen staff members

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_02]: leaped into action,

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_02]: wondering if I was okay

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and asking what they could do for me.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_02]: After I loosely explained the situation,

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_02]: one of the kitchen staff members

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_02]: told me that they would walk me to my car

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_02]: after closing

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_02]: to make sure that I was safe.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_02]: The other kitchen staff member

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_02]: angrily demanded to know

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_02]: if the man was still in the restaurant,

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_02]: but I didn't know.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I was too afraid to look.

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Five minutes later,

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_02]: my manager came back

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and told me

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_02]: that she watched the man

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_02]: leave out the patio door.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_02]: My manager said that the man

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_02]: tried to get a good look

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_02]: at the patio bar

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_02]: to see if I was out there closing.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_02]: When the man didn't see me,

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_02]: he got into his car and left.

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Still visibly shaken,

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_02]: my co-workers asked

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_02]: what had happened

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and if I was okay.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I was embarrassed

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: because I didn't like

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_02]: that I let someone

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_02]: make me feel that uncomfortable

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was also still very scared.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_02]: How did this man know where I lived?

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Or where I worked?

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_02]: How did he get so much

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_02]: private personal information

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_02]: in the 15-minute private call

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_02]: that we were on?

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I never even revealed my real name.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_02]: How could he have known

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_02]: all of this information?

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't tell him anything.

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I was worried

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that he would come back again,

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_02]: which was chilling.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_02]: What did he even want from me?

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_02]: The next thing I knew,

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_02]: it was midnight.

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_02]: An hour and a half had passed

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_02]: since the coast was cleared

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_02]: by my manager.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Even then,

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I asked about 20 times,

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_02]: out of an abundance of caution,

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_02]: if he was sure

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_02]: that he saw the man leave in his car.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_02]: My manager confirmed,

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_02]: yes,

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_02]: he was driving a green van.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_02]: He's gone.

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And he was right.

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_02]: The parking lot

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_02]: only had a few cars left

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and they were recognized by me

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_02]: as belonging to the closing staff.

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Right before I walked out,

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_02]: the two guys working in the kitchen

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_02]: suggested that I leave

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_02]: from the side door just in case.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I agreed that this was a good idea

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and one of them walked out first,

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_02]: holding the door open for me

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_02]: as I stepped behind them.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Right then,

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_02]: a green van

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_02]: that had been parked

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_02]: right outside the side door

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_02]: turned its lights on

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and peeled out of the parking lot.

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_02]: My co-worker,

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_02]: immediately realizing who it was,

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_02]: began to chase after the van on foot,

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_02]: screaming,

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't ever come back here!

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and threatened to beat them up.

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Two more male co-workers

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: followed suit

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and the three of them

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_02]: went outside

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_02]: to circle our building

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and the parking lot

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_02]: to ensure that this man

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_02]: didn't pull back in.

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I was crying and anxious

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_02]: all over again,

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_02]: so my manager

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and two female co-workers

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_02]: rushed me to my car.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_02]: My manager assured me

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_02]: that he was calling the cops.

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: He said that he was going to

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_02]: pull the camera footage

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_02]: of the man

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_02]: in his green van

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_02]: in the parking lot.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I remember trying to

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_02]: ease myself

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_02]: as I sat in the driver's seat

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: of my car.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I relaxed for a second

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_02]: as my manager advised,

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Take a different way home

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_02]: than you ordinarily would.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't park your car

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and try to go into your home

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_02]: until you're certain

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_02]: that nobody is tailing you.

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I drove the whole way home

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_02]: in complete silence,

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_02]: checking my mirrors

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_02]: every few seconds

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_02]: for headlights behind me.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I was petrified,

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_02]: frozen from pure fear.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I never heard from that man

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_02]: again after that night.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't find our messages

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_02]: on the site to report,

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_02]: as I'm sure

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_02]: he quickly deleted his account.

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_02]: If he ever returned

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_02]: to the bar

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_02]: that I worked at again,

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I never knew about it.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: A few months later,

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I moved to Texas

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_02]: and moved on

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_02]: from this creepy situation

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_02]: entirely.

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_02]: So to the man

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_02]: who liked my moth tattoo,

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_02]: let's never meet again.

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[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Before we jump in,

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I have to give you

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_02]: some background

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_02]: so you can better

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_02]: understand the context

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_02]: of my best friend's story.

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Her name was Lily.

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily and I met in college.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I was a sophomore

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and she was a freshman.

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_02]: We met at a meeting

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_02]: that I had arranged

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_02]: for our campus's chapter

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_02]: of Oxfam International.

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily and I were friends

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_02]: right from the start.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_02]: A few years later,

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I graduated and moved

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_02]: to Cincinnati

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_02]: while Lily was still

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_02]: in school.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_02]: She had an off-campus

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_02]: apartment and lived

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_02]: by herself.

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_02]: This is where the story starts.

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily started dating

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_02]: this guy who we're

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_02]: going to call Fuckwad.

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a piece of shit

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and he doesn't deserve

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_02]: a fake name.

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I could tell from the start

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_02]: that he was bad news.

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_02]: She was very elusive

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_02]: about him and wouldn't

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_02]: introduce him to any

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_02]: of her friends or family.

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I was concerned,

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_02]: but I also knew

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_02]: that Lily's relationships

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_02]: were often fleeting.

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I assumed he was

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_02]: probably just the newest

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_02]: flavor of the week.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Right around this time,

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily stopped answering

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: my calls

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and my texts,

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_02]: but I finally saw

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_02]: a picture of

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Fuckwad.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_02]: As soon as I saw

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_02]: his picture,

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I freaked out

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_02]: because I took one look

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_02]: at this guy's face

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and I knew

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_02]: he was an addict.

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I immediately felt like

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I had to find Lily.

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I blew up her phone.

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I called her

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and sent multiple texts.

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I even left

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_02]: a very heated voicemail

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_02]: telling her to call me

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_02]: back in five minutes

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_02]: or I would be

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_02]: leaving the house

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_02]: to find her.

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Shortly after I left

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_02]: that voicemail,

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_02]: my phone rang.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_02]: But it wasn't Lily.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It was her mom

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_02]: calling to tell me

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_02]: that she had Lily's phone.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily's mom was screening

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily's calls

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and messages.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Her mom said

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_02]: she had just listened

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_02]: to my voicemail.

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Now,

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_02]: why was her mom

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_02]: screening her phone?

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_02]: My worst fear

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_02]: was then confirmed.

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily had become

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_02]: addicted to heroin.

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Her parents found out

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and intervened.

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_02]: They pulled Lily

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_02]: from school

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and sent her

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_02]: to a rehab facility.

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I was the only person

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_02]: outside of Lily's

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: immediate family

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_02]: who was allowed

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_02]: to have contact with her

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_02]: and I communicated

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_02]: regularly.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I still have

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_02]: all the letters

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_02]: that she wrote me

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_02]: while she was in rehab.

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Not only did Lily

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_02]: overcome her addiction

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_02]: during this time,

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_02]: but she absolutely

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_02]: flourished.

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Fuckwad

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_02]: made repeated attempts

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_02]: to maintain

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_02]: his hold on her,

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_02]: including an ominous

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_02]: message stating,

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_02]: If I can't have you,

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_02]: nobody can.

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily ceased

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_02]: all contact

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_02]: with this guy

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and graduated

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_02]: from the rehabilitation

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_02]: program.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Then,

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_02]: she went back

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_02]: to school

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and graduated

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_02]: with honors.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I made a special trip

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_02]: to watch her walk

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_02]: across the stage

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_02]: that day.

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I've never been

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_02]: more proud

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_02]: of anyone in my life.

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_02]: After college,

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily went to

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_02]: the University of Miami

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_02]: for a dual masters

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and PhD program

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_02]: in sociology.

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_02]: She loved the program

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and everything

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_02]: about Miami.

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_02]: She was living

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: her dream

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and kicking

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_02]: serious ass.

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Then,

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_02]: in December

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_02]: of 2014,

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_02]: just before the end

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_02]: of her first semester

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_02]: at University of Miami

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_02]: and two weeks

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_02]: before Christmas,

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_02]: she came to visit me

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_02]: for a weekend

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_02]: to attend

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_02]: a mutual friend's

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_02]: graduation.

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_02]: We spent the weekend

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_02]: talking,

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_02]: eating,

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_02]: laughing,

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_02]: and hanging out

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_02]: since we rarely

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_02]: saw each other

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_02]: after she had moved

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_02]: to Florida.

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_02]: When I dropped her off

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_02]: at the airport

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_02]: that Sunday

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_02]: to go back to Miami,

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_02]: we hugged

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and parted ways

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_02]: saying that we would

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_02]: see each other

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_02]: again at Christmas.

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_02]: That was the last time

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I saw Lily

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_02]: alive.

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_02]: The morning of

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Christmas Eve,

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_02]: 2014,

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I was awoken

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_02]: by my phone ringing.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It was Lily's mom,

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I answered,

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_02]: thinking that

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_02]: it was a little weird

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_02]: that she was calling

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_02]: so early.

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Answering that call

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_02]: changed my life forever.

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily's mom

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_02]: was sobbing.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Through the sobs,

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I heard the words,

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_02]: she's gone,

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily is gone.

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_02]: My best friend

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_02]: had passed away.

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I knew

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_02]: that that guy

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_02]: had something

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_02]: to do with it.

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And he did.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily returned home

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_02]: for Christmas

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_02]: a couple of days

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_02]: before her death.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_02]: On the night

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_02]: she died,

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_02]: she borrowed

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_02]: her sister's car

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and said that she

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_02]: was going to hang

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_02]: out with a friend.

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_02]: That friend

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_02]: turned out to be

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_02]: that guy.

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_02]: For reasons

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_02]: we still

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_02]: don't know,

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_02]: the two of them

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_02]: were in contact

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_02]: again

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and Lily

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_02]: made plans

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_02]: to meet him

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that night.

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_02]: The plan

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_02]: was to do

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_02]: some heroin

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_02]: according to

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_02]: the messages

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_02]: that that guy

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_02]: sent her.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_02]: What happened

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_02]: after she met

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_02]: up with him

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_02]: is something

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_02]: else that

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_02]: we'll never know.

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_02]: All we know

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_02]: for sure

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_02]: is that she

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_02]: went to see him

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_02]: with the intent

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_02]: of doing heroin.

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_02]: According to him,

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_02]: they watched

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_02]: a movie

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_02]: when she

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_02]: got to his place.

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_02]: He said that

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_02]: in evolved

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_02]: versions

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_02]: of this

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_02]: story,

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_02]: he said

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_02]: that Lily

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_02]: had only

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_02]: been there

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_02]: for about

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_02]: 20 minutes

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_02]: before she

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_02]: took the

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_02]: heroin.

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_02]: He said

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_02]: it became

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_02]: clear

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_02]: that she

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_02]: was overdosing.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_02]: But by

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: the time

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: the 911

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_02]: call was

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_02]: made

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and the

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_02]: ambulance

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_02]: arrived,

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_02]: it was

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_02]: clear that

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_02]: she had

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_02]: been at

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_02]: his place

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_02]: for longer

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_02]: than

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: 20 minutes.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_02]: When

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_02]: paramedics

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_02]: arrived at

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_02]: the scene,

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily's skin

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_02]: was blue

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_02]: since she

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_02]: had been

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_02]: without

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_02]: oxygen

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_02]: for so

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_02]: long.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_02]: She was

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_02]: rushed to

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_02]: the hospital

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_02]: where she

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_02]: held on

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_02]: for another

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_02]: hour or

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: so but

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: she passed

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: away in

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_02]: the early

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_02]: morning hours

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_02]: of Christmas

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Eve.

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I won't

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_02]: recount the

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_02]: full details

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_02]: of this

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_02]: guy's story

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_02]: but I

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_02]: will say

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_02]: there were

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_02]: cannonball

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_02]: sized holes

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_02]: in it

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_02]: from the

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_02]: beginning.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It was

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_02]: very clear

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_02]: to investigators

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that he

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_02]: wasn't being

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_02]: honest.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_02]: To this

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_02]: day we still

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_02]: don't know

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_02]: exactly what

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_02]: happened

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_02]: that night

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_02]: but we

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_02]: do know

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_02]: based on

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_02]: the toxicology

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_02]: reports

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_02]: that Lily

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_02]: did not

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_02]: die

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_02]: of a

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_02]: heroin

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_02]: overdose.

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Lily

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_02]: was killed

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_02]: by a

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_02]: lethal dose

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_02]: of fentanyl

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_02]: that had

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_02]: been injected

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_02]: into her

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_02]: body.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_02]: There was

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_02]: never any

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_02]: heroin.

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_02]: This guy

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_02]: intentionally

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_02]: got fentanyl

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and he

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_02]: let her think

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_02]: that it

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_02]: was heroin.

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Whether it

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_02]: was him

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_02]: or Lily

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_02]: injecting it

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_02]: he knew

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_02]: what she

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_02]: was taking.

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_02]: He knew

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_02]: what it

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_02]: would do

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_02]: to her.

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_02]: He knew

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: that it

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: would kill

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: her.

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_02]: He let

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_02]: her die.

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_02]: He sat

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_02]: there and

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_02]: watched

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and waited

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_02]: until he

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_02]: knew

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_02]: that it

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: would be

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: too late

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: to save

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: her

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: before he

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: called

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: 911.

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_02]: He

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_02]: murdered

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_02]: my

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_02]: best

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_02]: friend.

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_02]: get away

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_02]: with it

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_02]: though.

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I was

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: present in

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: the courtroom

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_02]: the day

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_02]: that he

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_02]: was sentenced

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_02]: for his

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_02]: responsibility

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_02]: in Lily's

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_02]: death.

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Since

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_02]: there was

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_02]: no way

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_02]: to prove

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_02]: that he

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_02]: was the

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_02]: one

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_02]: who

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_02]: injected

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_02]: it

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_02]: into

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_02]: her

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_02]: he

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_02]: wasn't

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_02]: able

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_02]: to be

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_02]: fully charged

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_02]: with murder.

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_02]: He was

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_02]: sentenced

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_02]: to 14

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_02]: years

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and will

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_02]: not be

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_02]: eligible

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_02]: for parole

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_02]: until at

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_02]: least serving

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_02]: 11 years

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_02]: of his

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_02]: sentence.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_02]: His

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_02]: incarceration

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_02]: will never

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_02]: be long

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_02]: enough

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_02]: especially

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_02]: since he

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_02]: continues

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_02]: to live

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_02]: while she

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_02]: does not.

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But at

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_02]: least there

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_02]: was some

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_02]: justice

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_02]: served

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_02]: for her

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_02]: death.

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_02]: So to

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_02]: the jealous

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_02]: murderous

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_02]: man who

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_02]: killed

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_02]: my

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_02]: best

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_02]: friend

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_02]: let's

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_02]: not

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_02]: meet

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_02]: again.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_02]: This

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_02]: happened

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_02]: in 2009

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I was

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_02]: 15.

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I got a

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_02]: job working

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_02]: at a

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_02]: fast food

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_02]: restaurant.

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_02]: To start

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I cooked

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_02]: fries

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and chicken

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_02]: nuggets.

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_02]: There was

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_02]: a man

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_02]: who worked

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_02]: there with

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_02]: me.

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_02]: call him

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Harry.

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Harry

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_02]: was a

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_02]: very nice

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_02]: guy but

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_02]: he had

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_02]: some issues.

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_02]: He had

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_02]: schizophrenia.

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I also

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_02]: believe he

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_02]: had some

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_02]: other

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_02]: psychological

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_02]: disorders but

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_02]: really sure.

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_02]: that he

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_02]: was totally

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_02]: harmless.

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Whenever I

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_02]: worked with

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_02]: him he

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_02]: would just

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_02]: talk about

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_02]: his car

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and the

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_02]: stereo in

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_02]: his car.

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Basically

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_02]: due to

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_02]: his illness

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_02]: the restaurant

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_02]: that we

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_02]: worked at

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_02]: was kind

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_02]: of his

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_02]: life.

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Working

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and his

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_02]: car that

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_02]: was it.

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I only

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_02]: worked there

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_02]: for a

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_02]: couple of

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_02]: months.

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_02]: My twin

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_02]: sister

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_02]: worked

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_02]: there with

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_02]: me.

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_02]: She

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_02]: worked

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_02]: there

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_02]: longer

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_02]: for about

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_02]: two

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_02]: years.

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Fast

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_02]: forward

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_02]: to 2012

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_02]: my

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_02]: sister

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: and I

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: were

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: living

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: at

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_02]: home

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_02]: in

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_02]: my

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_02]: mom

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_02]: stepdad's

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_02]: two

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_02]: story

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_02]: house.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_02]: My

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_02]: mom

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_02]: stepdad

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_02]: did not

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_02]: live in

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_02]: this

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_02]: house

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_02]: at the

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_02]: time.

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_02]: They

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_02]: actually

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_02]: lived in

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Canada

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_02]: for work

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_02]: so it

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_02]: was always

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_02]: just my

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_02]: sister

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and I

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_02]: living

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_02]: there.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Around

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_02]: holidays

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_02]: my

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_02]: parents

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_02]: would

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_02]: come

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_02]: home.

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_02]: My

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_02]: brother

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_02]: came

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_02]: home

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_02]: as

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_02]: well

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_02]: usually

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_02]: if he

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_02]: had

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_02]: a

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_02]: serious

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_02]: girlfriend

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_02]: they

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_02]: would

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_02]: come.

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_02]: home.

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_02]: The

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_02]: week of

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Christmas

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_02]: my

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_02]: parents

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_02]: my

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_02]: brother

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_02]: his

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_02]: girlfriend

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_02]: were

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_02]: home.

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It was

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_02]: around

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_02]: one in

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_02]: morning

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_02]: my

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_02]: sister

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_02]: was

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_02]: awakened

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_02]: by

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_02]: of

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_02]: knocking

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_02]: on our

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_02]: doors.

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_02]: We had

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_02]: a front

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_02]: door

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and a

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_02]: back

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_02]: door

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_02]: that was

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: in a

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: little

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: entryway

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_02]: in our

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_02]: garage.

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_02]: She

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_02]: her

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_02]: dog

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_02]: were

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_02]: sleeping

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_02]: when

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_02]: they

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_02]: heard

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_02]: knocking.

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_02]: It

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_02]: was

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_02]: very

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_02]: repetitive.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_02]: The

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_02]: knocking

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_02]: was

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_02]: at

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_02]: back

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_02]: door

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_02]: but

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: then

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: it

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: would

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: be

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: at

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: front

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_02]: door.

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_02]: She

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_02]: could

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_02]: see

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_02]: shadow

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_02]: of

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_02]: somebody

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_02]: running

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_02]: across

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_02]: window

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_02]: to

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_02]: get

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_02]: to

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_02]: other

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_02]: door

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_02]: whoever

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_02]: it

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_02]: was

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_02]: ran

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_02]: back

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_02]: forth

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_02]: to

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_02]: knock

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_02]: on

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_02]: both

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_02]: doors.

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_02]: was

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_02]: happening

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_02]: fast

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_02]: repeatedly

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_02]: my

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_02]: sister

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_02]: couldn't

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_02]: tell

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_02]: if

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_02]: it

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_02]: was

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_02]: one

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_02]: person

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_02]: or

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_02]: multiple

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_02]: people.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_02]: She

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_02]: went

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_02]: to

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_02]: my

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_02]: mom

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_02]: step

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_02]: dad's

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